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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cryptopsy @ The Bombshelter, 4/22/05 by Terence on Feb 21,2005 2:07am
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toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 21,2005 2:07am
Thursday, April 22nd, 2005
The Bombshelter, 97 Eddy Road, Manchester, NH
8pm, $12 @ the door, 18+

Cryptopsy

+ Shroud of Bereavement, Screams of Erida, Systematic Suicide, Ascendancy...not in that order.

Serge specifically said the lineup will be determined by who sells more tickets. I personally dont think it matters...its fucking Cryptopsy.

We're selling tickets for $10. Terence@copper.net if anyone is interested.

Arthur Titsling was a good man. He invented the bra...discuss.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 21,2005 2:09am
ok i understand you guys and kinda Shroud...but even though i'm friends with SoE i dont understand why they are on this bill at all, and i've never heard anything by Systematic Suicide.

discuss !



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 21,2005 3:00am
Systematic Suicide. i got their demo, and i though it was very rough, i didn't like them, and perhapes they are better now as it was a very old recording.

sounds to me like its suffocation style stuff with a quarter of the talent. soe i hear is metalcore but has 3 guitars so they must be compitent musicians to be able to pull off 3 guitar harmonies live, i'm curious to hear them.
sob is amazing death doom(lol)
ascendancy are bad assed brutal tech death!



and todd told me 12 bucks, are they 10 bucks, cause i owe some people reto on the extra 2 dollars that we have charged so far....tearnce, you may want to double check on the ticket prices, i'm pretty sure they are 12....but i could be wrong



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 21,2005 3:40am
$12 In Advance/From the bands



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 21,2005 3:42am
Or $10 and a handjob from Terence,That is why they are cheaper from Ascendancy



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 21,2005 2:19pm
i see. so is it really 12 or 10 and a hand doukey



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 21,2005 2:25pm
We're selling them for $10, just to try to get people to go.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 21,2005 4:41pm
Terence said:
We're selling them for $10, just to try to get people to go.


you so smart,and how's that workin for ya?It is a cool idea,hope it works,Although if it does not...................Handjobs all around



toggletoggle post by Paullll at Feb 21,2005 4:50pm
Any room for another band?



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 21,2005 6:22pm
Nope show is booked solid



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 21,2005 11:03pm
are you selling them for 10 and throwing the extra 2 bucks from your own pocket, or are the prices actually 12, cause it's not really fair for you to get the special price, and everyone else buying them for more.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 21,2005 11:56pm
Nope, I'm selling them for $10, and making up for whatever is lost. No special privileges for us, I'm just trying to get people to go, at our own expense. Call me stupid but I, like all the other bands playing want a ton of people there. As far as other band placement, I'm not trying to get ahead, its just gonna be a little harder since Boston is about 60 miles away from the Bombshelter. We'll see what happens.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 21,2005 11:57pm
thats the way to do it, man.
good lookin out.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 22,2005 12:02am
thanks kok.




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Feb 22,2005 12:16am
w00t....good luck, guys...rip shit up.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 12:17am
Cool idea,Terence, Hope it works out well, Serge commented to me yesterday about you guys ,as I was thanking him for hookin you up,Said jokingly that he was gonna kick my ass if you did not do well.Haha i have confidence in you,bro.Can't wait to see ya at the show.I will be looking at the distro and pickin some Cd's for sure ,I can't wait!



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 22,2005 12:20am
thanks Todd. I have confidence in doing extremely well. Advertising within a 100 mile radius should help. It'll be an awesome time.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 12:45am
serge said he liked us once, he forgot about us after the 4th time we played there.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 12:53am
RustedAngel said:
serge said he liked us once, he forgot about us after the 4th time we played there.


He still likes when you play there , he just is not cool with the fact you don't wanna sell tix for a spot on a national



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Feb 22,2005 12:54am
I think serge likes everyone, my friends band used to play there all the time, and he could never remember their name, always called them Dark Raven or some shit...



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 12:58am
Dusk Raven?



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Feb 22,2005 1:00am
yeah, that was them, too bad they broke up, even worse is it was just before I played my first show with them.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 1:03am
that sucks they were cool



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Feb 22,2005 1:07am
yeah, there was a lot of talent in that band... but I've moved onto Shroud, the basist has his thing, and the singer/guitarist has his thing now.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 1:17am
the bassist is who I remember the most he was sick



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 22,2005 1:47am
When I go there to pick up tickets, he fucking yells at me...

"Where the fuck were you!?! I could have used you on the Cryptopsy show!!"....
"I'm here to get tickets, I'm in Ascendancy".....
"oh...WTF...you dickhead! I thought you were in some other death metal band!"

absolutely priceless.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 4:23am
haha that is hilarious,I seriously think he has Alzheimers



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 9:00am
Todd said:

He still likes when you play there , he just is not cool with the fact you don't wanna sell tix for a spot on a national


I'm not cool with the fact that IF we didn't sell 40 ticket's we'd have to pay to make up the difference and the fact that it didn't seem like he gave a fuck and was willing to throw any band (nu-metal or not) as long as they were willing to sell tickets. AH WELL. We're playing with cryptopsy april 3rd at an awesome club in maine that give's us free food/drinks without us even asking for it! So I guess it's cool that some other bands will get a chance to play with them at the bombshelter....




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 9:01am
btw, april 22nd is a friday.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2005 3:27pm
I too will be selling tickets and will have some at some shows comming up in the near future like Sausage Fest!



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2005 3:30pm
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME.... on this show that is, hahaha



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Feb 22,2005 3:35pm
DANIEL MONGRAIN of MARTYR, GORGUTS and CAPHAURNUM will be touring with Cryptopsy.

Fucking unbelievable. I can't wait to shake that man's hand.



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Feb 22,2005 3:56pm
Hmm I'm confused. April 22nd is a Friday...



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 3:57pm
RustedAngel said:
btw, april 22nd is a friday.





toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 3:57pm
Yes it is on FRIDAY



toggletoggle post by Anthony at Feb 22,2005 3:58pm
word.



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Feb 22,2005 4:00pm
i'd go if i had a ride...



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2005 4:16pm
Yes I know it's a Friday, I told Terence that orginally but his ego refused to believe it, : p



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 6:54pm
dirteecrayon said:
i'd go if i had a ride...


That sucks ,You can't get anyone to hook you up? Come on some one give her a ride



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 8:48pm edited Feb 22,2005 8:52pm
hahaha

proof that serge doesn't know which bands fit with others, or that he has alzheimer's... from the singer of wretched asylum in response to bornsovile josh:

"Quote:
Josh: buy a cryptopsy record.


Phil/Wretched Aslum: No thanks. Serge offered us to do their show at The Bombshelter last time I was there. I refused, all set. Now Rotting Christ, I'd definitely buy their record."



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2005 8:59pm
I wish wretched asylum said yes to playing the cryptopsy show.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 22,2005 10:36pm
They would not have palyed that if I had anything to do with it, He likes CSDO way more and look what happened to them on that show



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 23,2005 12:12am
BornSoVile said:
Yes I know it's a Friday, I told Terence that orginally but his ego refused to believe it, : p


I didnt know this was a Friday. Well shit on me.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 23,2005 12:24am
BornSoVile said:
Yes I know it's a Friday, I told Terence that orginally but his ego refused to believe it, : p



haha no Josh, my ego totally erased you ever telling me that, silly boy.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 23,2005 12:39am
oh the ride part....I honestly think we should get some shuttles going for this shit, like a whole bunch of people who have mini vans and SUV's meeting together for the trip. I'm serious...

Friday, shit I didnt even look at the calendar for that. Why the hell did I think it was Thursday.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 23,2005 1:17am
That is a killer Idea



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2005 2:44am
Fucking A!





toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Feb 23,2005 10:20am
Is this the same weekend as the New England Metalcore Fest?



toggletoggle post by dirtycrayon at Feb 23,2005 10:22am
i think it's on the 1st day of fest



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2005 5:06pm
yes the first day of the fest.
WHAT SELF RESPECTING METAL HEAD WOULD AND SHOULD GO TO THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEST????
CRYPTOPSY BABY, CRYPTOPSY!!!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 23,2005 5:10pm
BornSoVile said:
yes the first day of the fest.
WHAT SELF RESPECTING METAL HEAD WOULD AND SHOULD GO TO THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEST????
CRYPTOPSY BABY, CRYPTOPSY!!!


umm Obituary and Since the Flood are on the first day !



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 23,2005 5:10pm edited Feb 23,2005 5:13pm
Dyingmuse said:
are you selling them for 10 and throwing the extra 2 bucks from your own pocket, or are the prices actually 12,



Terence said:
Nope, I'm selling them for $10, and making up for whatever is lost. No special privileges for us, I'm just trying to get people to go, at our own expense.


SO you say no and mean yes? Should we all lower the price to $10 also? Anyone would obviously pay $10 rather than $12 for a ticket to the same show. Taking it upon yourself to undercut all the bands including yourself and creating, in essence, a "Pay to Play" enviornment, seeing how all of the bands (in trying to sell their own tickets) must now eat a $2 per ticket loss in order to keep up with the current price. It's not right to force that onto all of us.





toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2005 5:10pm
shut up sean.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 23,2005 5:12pm
BornSoVile said:
shut up sean.


Haha just saying !



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 23,2005 5:15pm
i dont know what happened but my last post all came in yellow on the last paragraph.



toggletoggle post by Distrust-Kevin at Feb 23,2005 7:38pm
Terence might as well just give the tickets away.He cuts the ticket price by 16% and pays the difference out of pocket? Paying to play sucks. Do you really think you will sell more tickets by cutting the price by two bucks? Shit, that cant even buy you a lunch at McDonalds anymore.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 23,2005 7:41pm
kevin...ha ha ha you dick! how's the band? when we playing shows again?

i do agree though, it's really not fair man seriously.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2005 7:45pm
yo kevin AKA triple H. what's up man? it's Tom... been a while...hope shit's going alright.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 23,2005 9:22pm
hey tom, you guys wanna play in ri with on june 10th or july 1st at KC's tap?

let me know man



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 23,2005 11:53pm
Distrust-Kevin said:
Terence might as well just give the tickets away.He cuts the ticket price by 16% and pays the difference out of pocket? Paying to play sucks. Do you really think you will sell more tickets by cutting the price by two bucks? Shit, that cant even buy you a lunch at McDonalds anymore.


I dont give a fuck about losing money. Ive been losing money to death metal since 2000. It aint about to stop here. I'm sorry if my efforts arent up to par, or seem stupid to you. I'm not in it to make money. Its not just me, but my whole band thats gonna lose money there pal. I'm trying to sell tickets here in MA, and its gonna be that much harder. I have a minimum of 40 tickets to sell. Thats $480. No matter what, I'm gonna lose money. Think about it before you open your mouth.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 1:02am
Tickets for the Cryptopsy show are now available with Paypal through our website.

RTTP's 2nd most hated band...You voted for it! You got it!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 24,2005 1:03am
Terence said:
Tickets for the Cryptopsy show are now available with Paypal through our website.

RTTP's 2nd most hated band...You voted for it! You got it!


who was the first !



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 1:07am
CSDO, according to the wonderful thread about the worst local bands.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 24,2005 1:09am
wow.

well if it puts a smile on your face, i dont hate your band. i just think the gtr tone on the MP3s could be mixed better.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 1:13am
thats ok, its your opinion on who you like or dont. The recording was rushed, so its not an unbelievable record. Now with 1 guitar it sounds a lot better, in my opinion and lots of other people's on this board as well.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 1:31am
terrance, i hardly think that kevins point was you losing money or making money, but rather the other bands losing money man. if we want to sell our tickets at the "going" price we naow have to lose 80 dollars because of your brilliant marketing sceme. kevin just called you on this whole thing. it's not about you losing money, it's about shroud, soe and ss losing money. if you want to talk about losng money, i just spent 5500 on my album, i spend 20 on our website every month, 100 a month in promotion and gas for shows, and now 80 bucks for this show....thats the point man. i dont think it's about trying to "get" people there for you, it seems to me that you are more concerened about band slots. and i don't give a fuck about that. but i do however care about keeping my word to the owner of the bombshelter and selling our 40 tickets, wich you just made harder for me to do.

whatever.... what's done is done, i'm just saying that that wasn't the most professional way to do things. i thought this was about playing metal, and not cut throat compitition.


grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by TerribleNightSteve   at Feb 24,2005 5:01am
Hey Dan, I need to buy a ticket from you. At full price of course.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 24,2005 5:23am
Guess I should not be giving tickets away huh?



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 2:00pm
thanks man i appreciate that, i gave some to kelley to sell so you may be able to catch up with her, if not call me 1978 476 9161

thanks man.



toggletoggle post by greed killer at Feb 24,2005 2:07pm
Terence said:


Serge specifically said the lineup will be determined by who sells more tickets. I personally dont think it matters...its fucking Cryptopsy.



GAY






toggletoggle post by ravenousdestruction   at Feb 24,2005 2:19pm edited Feb 24,2005 3:58pm
dyingmuse said:
thanks man i appreciate that, i gave some to kelley to sell so you may be able to catch up with her, if not call me 1978 476 9161

thanks man.


Do you really think it's a wise idea to post your number online...


And as for the tickets. You know how broke I am.


I may just have to put my ticket on layaway.




toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 24,2005 3:02pm
I hope Ascendancy plays first so I can get shitfaced.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 3:13pm


terrance really knows how to burn bridges

i don't really care who plays first or last, i just want to sell these fucking tickets like i promised i would. this who ever sells more tickets thing is stupid....and thats obviously what drove terrance to lower their prices.


gayness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 3:14pm
hey josh, maybe the other bands will get more tickets, we will open and both get shitfaced and forget about this whole thing.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 24,2005 3:18pm
BornSoVile said:
yes the first day of the fest.
WHAT SELF RESPECTING METAL HEAD WOULD AND SHOULD GO TO THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEST????
CRYPTOPSY BABY, CRYPTOPSY!!!


great... I'm kicked out of hardcore for ruining it...
now I'm kicked out of metal.
this sucks.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 3:18pm
thanks to jeremy from oak-knoll we have a paypal page for the tickets


again if you want to get tickets for this show please go to this link

http://www.oak-knoll.com/willowsoul/tickets.html



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Feb 24,2005 3:24pm
how many tix are ya'll being forced to sell per band, jarrod pulled this shit with my band and the opening of meliah rage show a few yrs back, hence the I HATE JARRODS crap(altho thats the tip of the case with my hate for him i assure you) he told me he moved us up to second cause one of the other bands allegedly sold 90tix and thats when the war began with me vs him

selling tix is gay no matter how you slice it!!!

it is gayier if they tell you that is you don't sell em all that you cannot play at all and i know there is at least 2 clubs that pull that one in bradford and jarrods(altho i found out later it was a lie to make us push the tix more)

it is pretty sad that it is gonna decide where in the line up of the show you will be slated like the scene isn't backstabbing and cut throght enough

on of the reasons why the scene disgusts me at times

at least when we were selling tix for pladium shows we were told do the best ya can........ thats the attitude the clubs should have , altho the pladium actually promots all their shows where most of the above clubs do not

my 2 cents have a good day



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 3:28pm
i agree.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 24,2005 3:28pm
subjugate said:
at least when we were selling tix for pladium shows we were told do the best ya can........ thats the attitude the clubs should have , altho the pladium actually promots all their shows where most of the above clubs do not

my 2 cents have a good day


*claps*



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 24,2005 3:31pm
subjugate said:

at least when we were selling tix for pladium shows we were told do the best ya can........ thats the attitude the clubs should have , altho the pladium actually promots all their shows where most of the above clubs do not


i agree with that completely. "do the best you can" is the best attitude. bombshelter does no advertising...I will not sell tickets for that place. plus, who the fuck buys tickets? I NEVER buy tickets.




toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 24,2005 3:39pm
dyingmuse said:
hey josh, maybe the other bands will get more tickets, we will open and both get shitfaced and forget about this whole thing.



sounds like a plan!
I still love you Rev, don't worry!
I agree with you Jim too.




toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 5:01pm
\m/ hell yeah



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Feb 24,2005 5:57pm
HEY DAN!
I'll but a ticket. Maybe two.
Looking forward to seeing you guys again, it's been too long.
Fucking Cryptopsy!



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 6:04pm
Jesus Christ dude, crucify me why dont you. I'll sell the fucking tickets for $12 then. I said at the beginning of this thread that I dont care what slot we get, its fucking Cryptopsy, its just harder to sell them here in MA, so I thought I would bite the bullet to get some MA people to go, at my expense. All the other bands playing arent from around here, so I figured it wouldnt hurt the other bands closer to the BS. So quick to say I'm burning bridges?

Ive really lost faith in this fucking fag scene. If it makes you happy I havent even gotten around to selling them, and I had 0 sold for the Paypal so far. Jesus Christ. Calm the fuck down.

I'm really the last person to give a lecture on spending money Dan. You dont even want to know how much Ive spent on our album, shows, everything. It'll make you shit a brick. I'm not the one making it a contest here. I'm just trying to get people to go to see ALL BANDS INCLUDING CRYPTOPSY, and that is really my intention. It makes me so fucking glad to see how everyone is so quick to stab each other in the back, esp. someone who is trying their damndest for metal, because I know damn well how hard it is to get people to go to fucking shows. I fucking hate this bullshit.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 24,2005 6:07pm
Terence my love, calm down, breath in and out. Could you please bring some tickets to pratice tonight? sausagefest is upon us!



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 6:12pm
yeah of course I will Josh.

I updated our Paypal site for the tickets to be $12.

I still think we should get some shuttle shit going on, from Boston to Manchester or some shit.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 6:16pm
well man, not for nothing but we do (beleive it or not) have fans down your way, and who's stabbing who in the back. it seems to me that you are all about beating the other bands out to get a better slot, and as far as that goes, i didn't even know that had anything to do with slots. this scene is bullshit and it's sad that it had to come to this.

i didn't cut prices, you did...and what would any normal person thing given the circumstances. i don't care, as i said before about the slot, i just want to sell the tickets that i told serge i would sell. and we have only sold 2 tickets so far.


mike i'd love to sell you those tickets, that would be awesome....i can mail them to you or meet you.

im me



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Feb 24,2005 6:18pm
Dan I left a message on your phone, please call me.



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Feb 24,2005 6:19pm
I'll let you know when I find out if I need one or two.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 6:20pm
ok man...sweet!


how the fuck you been anyway?

where ya been hiding?

you should come hang sometime!



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Feb 24,2005 6:26pm
Under several rocks.
I've got a lot of catching up to do.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Feb 24,2005 6:35pm
right on man



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Mar 1,2005 6:13am
Geez.I miss this thread for a couple days and all goes to hell,you all quit fighting huh?Come on now, It should not be a competition,You both should have your own fans or whatever to sell to ,Don't you?? ,Let's make this a good show every one should just chill out and have a good time,It's not about who plays when ,IT'S ABOUT METAL!!!



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 1,2005 9:07am
I wish it wasnt 18+



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 1,2005 9:08am
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
I wish it wasnt 18+


the show in maine is all ages.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Mar 1,2005 4:29pm
Todd said:
Geez.I miss this thread for a couple days and all goes to hell,you all quit fighting huh?Come on now, It should not be a competition,You both should have your own fans or whatever to sell to ,Don't you?? ,Let's make this a good show every one should just chill out and have a good time,It's not about who plays when ,IT'S ABOUT METAL!!!


yes that's why there was another thread started, this one wasn't supposed to be bumped, Todd.



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