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returntothepit >> discuss >> G-Dubya rocking out by JayTUS on Jan 21,2005 8:24am
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toggletoggle post by JayTUS   at Jan 21,2005 8:24am
He definitely seems like the moshing type:




toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Jan 21,2005 8:26am
nice



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 8:39am
no, it's not a rocking sign...
doesn't anyone know what that actually means? hahah.


"It's all right as long as it's accepted for what it was," Dio told the magazine. "It was a more serious thing at the time, when I was with [BLACK] SABBATH. That was a band that was very dark, and that's what I wanted it to be. It was symbol of the darkness of that band, and not something to be passed on to BRITNEY SPEARS! An invention is an invention, I guess. It's become so damn polluted now. The people who are doing it don't know what it means and they have no idea that they shouldn't be doing it.

"It's a trend," Dio addded. "It's a popular trend and so it will probably become like the hula hoop. During a show, I sometimes think 'Maybe I won't do that tonight', because it's become so damn ludicrous now. Everyone's doing it and it has no meaning anymore. Now I wait until two or three songs into the show, and until there's a stop in the music and I'm doing something on my own, and then the response is incredible because people are wanting that from me. It's like OZZY and the peace sign, you know? So I never
find myself not doing it, but I'm definitely doing it less and less these days.

"The point is that you can't just flash it. You have to a face that goes with it. There has to be some emotion behind it. It can't just be the raising of the arm, trying to get your fingers in the right position. And you'll notice that a lot of people are using the thumb now, too. When the thumb comes out it means 'I love you' either in Hawaiian or in sign language - I'm not sure which! So that's proof, once again, that these celebrities don't really have a clue. As stupid as this might sound, I never once did that on stage unless it was to punctuate something that was a little more dark. So when I did it, it was never about starting a trend. It's a natural thing for me to do. It's important to know that it's not something I did frivolously it was just a spontaneous response to something that I sang. A lot of times, bending of the knees always puts it in a slightly different perspective. It puts you in the Sumo position. Now you're ready to charge!"



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 21,2005 8:43am
Moral: put emotion behind your horns.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 21,2005 8:44am
i see tons of pics with celebs doing it

never thought it was a big deal since i figured they were just trying to look cool



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 8:46am
101 rules of True Satanism
Written by Mark Barnett (Infinity of Thought) and Alex Palomino (Refusal of Penance)
The following is intended as sarcasm. It should not be taken seriously!
1. Own all books written by Anton LaVey
2. Quote Nietzsche obsessively, but own none of his books.
3. Come up with long, evil sounding nick names like the grand high exalted daemon magister templi rex of the third degree
4. Whenever greeting other Satanists, the only acceptable greeting is Ave.
5. When feeling especially Satanic say Ave Satanas.
6. Pretend Ave Satanas is appropriate Latin.
7. Use Latin as much as possible. It is the Dark Lord's chosen language.
8. Come up with evil sounding screen names for message boards, like goatlord666, infernalbelial9, and Crucifier.
9. End all screen names with 666.
10. If you can't come up with an evil enough sounding screen name placing Lord in front of your own name is acceptable.
11. Own all of Crowley's books and read exactly none of them.
12. Form an online Satanic org with you and your friends and declare yourself the high priest.
13. Give your org a hellish sounding name like The Temple of Unholy Sacrilege, The Evil Church of Satanic Divinity, or, if the name you want is taken, The FIRST Evil Church of Satanic Divinity.
14. Offer members of your org an evil looking certificate or card.
15. Update your org's site once a year- no exceptions!
16. Turn all crosses you see up side down.
17. Make inverted crosses out of random objects.
18. Draw inverted pentagrams on your spiral notebook in math class.
19. Wear all black, all the time!
20. Paint your fingernails black, and don't repaint them until it has all worn off.
21. If your parents let you, paint your room black.
22. Make a Satanic alter using your dresser.
23. Carry your Satanic Bible everywhere you go.
24. Stand up for originality and individualism, but look like every other Satanist.
25. Wear outrageous looking clothes, and then complain when other students make fun of you.
26. Wear Halloween cloaks and capes as your ritual attire.
27. Listen to heavy metal.
28. Make the sign of the horns and bang your head while listening to heavy metal.
29. Make the sign of the horns while looking in the mirror to remind yourself of just how evil you are.
30. Never smile for pictures, and make the sign of the horns.
31. Complain about real world actions with Satanism but spend all day on message boards.
32. Leave your Halloween decorations up year round.
33. Celebrate all Satanic holidays even if you don't know what they are for.
34. Get excited every time your sales receipt comes out to $6.66.
35. Instead of saying oh my god, say oh my Satan.
36. Repeat the Lord's Prayer backwards six times every night before bed.
37. Make long boring posts on message boards that don't go anywhere.
38. Your signature should contain at least six lines not including Hail Satan.
39. Join every online org you come across.
40. Join every e-group and message board you can, post at each one approximately twice.
41. Create your own message board, and only allow your friends access.
42. Make your own Satanic website by ripping off everyone else's.
43. Declare yourself a Modern Satanist, wait a week, declare yourself a traditional Satanist, then revert back to Modern Satanism.
44. When anyone asks you what the difference between traditional and modern Satanism is, simply say: We are all sons of the Dark Lord.
45. Tell all your friends that you follow the Left Hand Path. When asked what that means just stare at them blankly.
46. If it's a dark sounding religion or path, it must be linked to Satanism. Examples include: Vampyrism, Demonolatry, and Chaos Magic.
47. Always spell vampire with a "Y".
48. Name your pets after the Infernal Names.
49. Hang out in cemeteries after dark.
50. Stir up trouble in Christian chat rooms.
51. Always spell Christian as Xtian.
52. I know what your altar is missing, a fake skull.
53. Cover your car's bumper with Satanic bumper stickers. Act surprised when they get ripped off.
54. Own Satanic clothing and jewelry; only wear them indoors when your parents are not home.
55. Start fights with other Satanic orgs because they are not true enough.
56. Claim to have secret knowledge of ancient occult mysteries.
57. Offer viewing of these ancient secrets for a small, nonrefundable fee.
58. Claim that you come from a long line of devil worshippers and that LaVeyans are not true.
59. Get ordained at the Universal Life Church (ULC)
60. Attempt to gain tax exemption.
61. When passing Jehovah's Witnesses on the road, yell "God is dead" out the window while giving the sign of the horns.
62. Post on message boards with more than one screen name. Use one alias to back up the other's arguments.
63. Blame all your troubles on God. When something good happens yell Hail Satan.
64. Pretend online curses are intimidating.
65. Dye your hair black.
666. Try to obtain a pet goat.
66. Rewrite the Nine Satanic Statements, Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth, and Nine Satanic sins.
67. Claim to be writing the next Satanic Bible.
68. Tell everyone you are the new "Black Pope".
69. Remember, Satanists are easy to make money off of. Sell Satanic paraphernalia at ridiculous prices.
70. Cheap Halloween accessories are an inexpensive source of ritual tools.
71. Bash Wiccans but own at least one Wiccan/Pagan book.
72. Read Harry Potter books.
73. When you have a strange dream, it must be significant, tell others immediately.
74. Use white out to draw inverted pentagrams on your backpack straps.
75. Cast curses on the bullies at school.
76. When someone asks you what's the significance of the Baphomet, tell them that it's a dark secret and cannot be revealed to outsiders.
77. Re-read The Satanic Bible, this time make sure to get past the second page.
78. Master the Enochian language.
79. Read Might is Right and wonder why it seems so familiar.
80. End all emails with Shemhamphorash.
81. If asked what Shemhamphorash means, stare blankly.
82. Don't spell Satan as S8N.
83. Start yet another Satanic group in Canada.
84. Claim ruler ship over the city your group resides in.
85. "Misplace" bibles from motel rooms.
86. Hang an up-side-down cross from your rearview mirror.
87. Call your phone company and request a phone number beginning with 666.
88. Own a pet snake.
89. Black cats also make acceptable pets.
90. Create a website using lots of graphics from Hellishgraphics.com
91. Play role-playing games obsessively.
92. Make it your life's quest to uncover the secret occult meaning behind "Yankee Rose".
93. Pretend the line between Thelema and Satanism does not exist.
94. Shave your head and grow a goatee.
95. Refer to your small collection of occult books as a library.
96. The only acceptable colors for your altar candles are black, white, and if feeling especially grim - red.
97. All true Satanists collect fantasy weapons off of ebay.
98. Makes plans to build an actual Satanic church.
99. If that does not work out make plans to open an occult book/coffee shop.
100. Hang out in the occult/new age section of the bookstore waiting for other dark brethren to arrive.
101. You mean to tell me you read this whole thing when you could have been jerking off in a cemetery while worshiping Satan somewhere?! For shame!!!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 8:48am
succubus said:
i see tons of pics with celebs doing it

never thought it was a big deal since i figured they were just trying to look cool


yeah, but do you think a lot of them would still do it if they knew it was the sign of the devil?



toggletoggle post by JayTUS   at Jan 21,2005 8:49am
I said it in the other post about Jenna, it's a Texas thing. It means "hook 'em Longhorns," all the University of Texas kids do it at football games and basketball games and all that, because you know, they are the Texas Longhorns, the two fingers extended are the horns... etc....



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 8:49am

"It never dawned on me until a few days ago, when I was flicking through the 3 million channels I don't even want and thought I saw something that couldn't possibly be true. I went back a few clicks of the remote and the sight of what was transpiring on the screen made me spill the Pabst Blue Ribbon I was holding. It was Avril Lavigne in one of her little tough girl poses, holding up a "666" sign with one hand and pointing at me with another. The world spun wildly and I had to run into the kitchen to grab a paper bag which I placed over my face so I wouldn't hyperventilate.

Instead, I threw up and passed out.

As most of you know, the sign of the devil isn't a new form of standard op in the music world. It's been around for quite some time and up until the moment Avril replaced milk, by inducing my vomit, just another thing to bring with you to a show along with your lighter (if you're an old-school rocker) and ear plugs (if you have a brain). It is predominantly metal oriented but its influence has slopped over into mainstream rock, punk and Avril.

In a way, its become worse than moshing which officially died the day I saw it on MTV, happening at a Pretenders show. Take a look around the next time you are in front of a band that really rocks and watch the hands start popping up like boners at a frat bar after midnight. I feel like jumping up on stage and yelling, "Incompetent fools, do you know what you are doing?"

From his condo in Hell, Satan called me and we engaged in this short conversation.

Short Bus: Satan, has this erroneous use of your sign affected you in any way?

Satan: Yes it has. I can't sleep, can't eat, can't continue with the business of gnashing teeth and endless pain. One of my minions told me that they saw it happen at a Cher concert and that was it...I don't want that bitch down here! That song "Believe?" I get a chill thinking about it.

SB: Where did it all go wrong?

Satan: I don't know. It started off strong with Iron Maiden and then all of a sudden, one of the New Kids On The Block flashed it on a poster and -BAM!

SB: So what to do?

Satan: I am thinking of changing my number. You know, not only do so many shitty bands and their fans do it but now I see it in movies with McCauley Caulkin and shit. Maybe "888?" I have to work it out with my team and see which set of numbers you can make with a hand.

SB: How about holding up three fingers, you know, like a trident?

Satan: Maybe, I don't know. Probably not, because it's probably some gang sign and-

SB: You don't want to offend anybody?

Satan: Who the fuck do you think you're talking to here, boy?

SB: Oh, sorry.

Satan: Well listen, I've got a lava bath waiting. See you soon.

SB: What? See who soon?

Satan: You. That one night stand was married.

SB: Shit.

So there you have it from the exalted one himself. In some way this can be classified as reverse blasphemy, your just using a God's antithesis in vain. It isn't even about the sign anymore, either. It's a scene from Joe Dirt, something kids use when they want to freak out their parents and something you couldn't imagine a Christian Coalition member flashing mid-rally. It is just another one of the many symbols of past subculture behavior that for some reason, has become popular way after the tread has worn off the tire. So I ask you fickle, Rolling Stone -reading Americans, use it sparingly or better yet, not at all.."



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jan 21,2005 10:07am
hahaha, that is great



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jan 21,2005 10:12am
I remember catching the end of a Creed performance on some award show a few years ago. People in the crowd were throwing horns at Creed and it was one of the funniest things I had ever seen.



toggletoggle post by WyrmFingerz   at Jan 21,2005 11:30am
what's worse is when they give you the surfer thumb-n-pinky thing THINKING that it is the horns or "that rockstar thing."

fuck those people, that's why i own a gun.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 11:50am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 21,2005 11:51am
ahahaha



toggletoggle post by tbone_r @work at Jan 21,2005 12:40pm
yeah, i heard a while ago that dio was mad about the overuse of the horns. i think avril's hot so i dont care if she does it. she could dress like a scene whore and ruin hardcore...i'd still put the wood to her.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 21,2005 12:58pm edited Jan 21,2005 1:00pm
tbone_r @work said:
she could dress like a scene whore and ruin hardcore


Didn't you hear? Aaron ruined hardcore forever when he took pictures at a show! American Nightmare had to change their name because of him. FSU started fighting kids because of him. Skinheads took over the scene back in the 80's after Aaron stumbled through a time portal. Ian Mackaye suffered a massive heart attack today and died. And tight jeans and castro hats became the rule of the scene ALL BECAUSE OF THE RTTP PHOTOGRAPHER.

Bands Aaron's photography has broken up

Converge
Bane
Agnostic Front
Gang Green
Slapshot
Blood For Blood
Walls Of Jericho
Cave In (his pictures also caused them to stop being hardcore)
and the list goes on.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Jan 21,2005 1:01pm
Did Aaron cause every hardcore band who had a record out before 1984 to suck wicked bad after 1984? Because that's gotta be somebody's fault.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Jan 21,2005 1:17pm edited Jan 21,2005 1:17pm



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 21,2005 1:20pm
Josh_Martin said:
Did Aaron cause every hardcore band who had a record out before 1984 to suck wicked bad after 1984? Because that's gotta be somebody's fault.



Of course he did, all those flashing lights and red crosshairs from his camera caused brain damage and blindness in many bands.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 21,2005 6:54pm
haha i forgot about that. fuck you rev



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 21,2005 8:14pm
BobNOMAAMRooney said:
tbone_r @work said:
she could dress like a scene whore and ruin hardcore


Didn't you hear? Aaron ruined hardcore forever when he took pictures at a show! American Nightmare had to change their name because of him. FSU started fighting kids because of him. Skinheads took over the scene back in the 80's after Aaron stumbled through a time portal. Ian Mackaye suffered a massive heart attack today and died. And tight jeans and castro hats became the rule of the scene ALL BECAUSE OF THE RTTP PHOTOGRAPHER.

Bands Aaron's photography has broken up

Converge
Bane
Agnostic Front
Gang Green
Slapshot
Blood For Blood
Walls Of Jericho
Cave In (his pictures also caused them to stop being hardcore)
and the list goes on.

don't forget pantera, his photography broke up pantera as well. and it killed jimi hendrix.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 21,2005 8:23pm
i think its revs fault dimebag got shot too



toggletoggle post by Dissector   at Jan 22,2005 2:07pm
Josh_Martin said:
Did Aaron cause every hardcore band who had a record out before 1984 to suck wicked bad after 1984? Because that's gotta be somebody's fault.


That is so awesome and true.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Jan 22,2005 6:10pm
I had no idea Converge broke up, how long ago did that happen?



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 23,2005 3:16am
about 10 minutes after rev took their pic



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 23,2005 3:07pm
tbone_r said:
about 10 minutes after rev took their pic


They broke up and then everyone at the Jackson Mann started fighting and the fight spilled out into Union Square and FSU beat up some BU kid and stole his wallet. Thanks a lot Rev.



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