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returntothepit >> discuss >> dec 17th show at the bombshelter by dyingmuse on Dec 13,2004 5:29pm
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toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 13,2004 5:29pm
here are the set times

9:00 -within the fry
9:45-shanequa and the skull fuckers
10:30-leakorhea
11:30-shroud of bereavement
12:30-pray for a pluage

we could start earlier or later concidering that the bs closes around 2ish

and if bands want to swap sets, thats fine with me.

a flyer would have been done a whilke ago, but our guitarist who was doing it just had emergency surgery and i just found this out. so i'll have my woman do something tonight, unless another band wants to do it.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 13,2004 5:47pm
aww damn...I wanna go, but will be gone :-/



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 13,2004 5:55pm
gone where fagg0t?
is the barrier down now?



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 13,2004 5:58pm
he already said he's leaving for NY



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 13,2004 6:00pm
VT is for lovers!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Dec 13,2004 6:19pm
i wanna check shroud of bereavement out but i have no cash to drive to NH, i am shamed !!!



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 13,2004 6:55pm
anyone wanna switch set times with within the fray?



toggletoggle post by My_Dying_Bride at Dec 13,2004 6:56pm
damn....
i will be watching the celtics get their asses handed to them by the utah jazz



toggletoggle post by carcinogenic_cookies at Dec 13,2004 8:55pm
Who would want to play after Shaniqua?



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 13,2004 10:21pm
lol

ok guys we have a guitarist out for the night. he just had an emergency surgery and will not be playing with us. bummer indeed! we will try to play a few new songs with 1 guitar anyway!



toggletoggle post by Kyledoes  at Dec 14,2004 2:35am
ok first things first we pray for a plague are switching with shaniqua and giving them the headliner position sorry within the fray we played first last time because you guys didnt want to go on...I think this show should start at 8..
anyone else??



toggletoggle post by nate   at Dec 14,2004 8:56am
seeing as people don't come out to the BS tioll later I think the first band going on at 9pm is a good idea, but that's just my opinion from our experiences there.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 14,2004 9:23am
but also, people leave rediculously early there.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 14,2004 9:27am
no, shows go rediculously late there.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 14,2004 9:29am
the_reverend said:
no, shows go rediculously late there.


yes...



toggletoggle post by nate   at Dec 14,2004 9:49am
the_reverend said:
no, shows go rediculously late there.


yeah last time we played there it was about 2 am when we got to play... that sucked! Hopefully the show runs smoothly and the bands can setup and tear down quick enough so noone has to be playing at 2 fuckin am.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 14,2004 9:58am
I was going to comment on the 2-2:15am show.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Dec 14,2004 12:16pm
Yes, always a good time to play after last call. 2 shows ago at the BS we were honored with that slot. Lo and behold, everyone had already left!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 14,2004 12:21pm
like ra said "headlining, or as it's now called playing after everyone already left"



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 14,2004 4:06pm
lol yeah that sucks. we will start whenever bands want to. i think the later the better because people do get there late. and we will be done by 1 ish. so peeps will be there till last call.
also we could do a back line if that will help. use our shit, thats fine with us. hopefully everyone will stay and have a good time. there will be a party at my pad after so who ever wants to come over its cool.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Dec 14,2004 4:18pm
did anyone else notice that every single band name was misspelled?

was that on purpose?



toggletoggle post by haha at Dec 14,2004 4:20pm
All of them except his band! LMAO



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 14,2004 5:17pm
lol....hey now i never said i could spell, or even talk for that matter. lol
shit i can't spell my own name...see....daaanahan. ok i'm a loser!



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 14,2004 6:45pm
the one person Hooked on Phonics DID NOT work for....



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 14,2004 6:48pm
the_reverend said:
is the barrier down now?


Not yet,It may be before friday though, I am not sure.



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 14,2004 9:52pm
i like being within the fry... as long as there's ketchup



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 15,2004 7:08am
hey that was from my memory, i am getting old man!



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 15,2004 3:40pm
its all good kyledoes, but we didnt "not want to go on first," they changed it at the last second. we're used to playing first anway, i think all but that show we play with you guys we've played first, but we've got some people that really wanted to see us that get out of work late, but its no big deal.



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 15,2004 4:18pm
This should start at 8. We will probaly get our set cut short anyway, that always happens at the bombshelter,and we don't want to headline.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 15,2004 4:52pm
Any you guys see the movie Saw ?



toggletoggle post by meanjean... at Dec 15,2004 5:01pm
I hope this show gets cancelled...this show is stupid.



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 15,2004 5:03pm
annonymous replies to posts are stupid.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 15,2004 5:18pm
meanjean is stupid



toggletoggle post by meanjean... at Dec 15,2004 6:18pm
I hope that stupid wall is still up so all our fans dont touch us.
fuck..................................you..............................cunts...........
dont let the fans touch us......
dont let the fans touch us
no one is gonna go to this show
no one cares about this show
fuck you cunts
fuck you
hulk hogan



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 15,2004 9:00pm
ha ha ha ha



toggletoggle post by Kyledoes  at Dec 15,2004 9:28pm
I dont know what is going on.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 15,2004 10:18pm
me either



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 15,2004 11:13pm
jeremy from oak-knoll will be there selling cd's

i guess he just got 100 new cd's from all over europe.
he's got firebox stuff \m/ and stuff from russia,japan,the end, red stream. i cant wait to drool over them.

yayeee



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 15,2004 11:28pm
Great,now i gotta remember to bring loads of cash,I spent all my $$ at Terence's table last time i think, or was it John's? don't remember at the moment.



toggletoggle post by meanjean... at Dec 15,2004 11:31pm
Hulk hogan will be making his guest debut with his hit single-'' No one knows the real me.'' I cant wait you are all dead. Homo's.



toggletoggle post by meanjean... at Dec 16,2004 1:59am
I hope this show is like the last show and 8 people show up.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 16,2004 8:21am
I will be there.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 16,2004 8:44am
so are you supposed to be mean jean oakerland?



toggletoggle post by silky  at Dec 16,2004 10:47am
meanjean... said:
I hope this show is like the last show and 8 people show up.


I hope danny davis and guerilla monsoon show up and power bomb you into a bucket of pig semen, and then you and I can drink the pig semen out of matching ruby slippers, toasting to our future together before each sip.



toggletoggle post by meanjean... at Dec 16,2004 3:07pm
thats right. Punk. whos the real american?



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 16,2004 5:07pm
I dont think we will be playing due to transportation issues.
I dont really wanna play a show until we finish our ep or finish our new material anyways...there is a small chance we will show up but if we dont we are sorry and have a wonderful evening. kyle



toggletoggle post by blue  at Dec 16,2004 5:16pm
ill quite possibly be there.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 16,2004 5:49pm
so wait pray for a plauge won't be playing?

i'm confused, what band?

well i just got a call we have another band to play so let me know.



toggletoggle post by Kyledoes  at Dec 16,2004 8:10pm
It's kind of 50/50 right now. I will try to let someone know before the end of tonight or I will post tomorrow morning.. Either way are set is only 15-19 minutes...so add whoever it is regardless and if they show up and we show up we can cut our set short or vice versa.
kyle



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 16,2004 10:58pm
blue said:
ill quite possibly be there.


that would be awesome.




toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 16,2004 11:36pm
yeah pray for a plague has dropped off...due to lack of funds and transportation our station wagon is in the shop right now as of this evening...sorry to anyone that wanted to see us.
hope to see you all soon.
kyle and p.f.a.p



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 17,2004 7:06am
that sucks ass! i was looking forward to seeing/playing with you guys.



toggletoggle post by Nate   at Dec 17,2004 12:45pm
ROLL CALL! Who's going tonight?



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 17,2004 1:35pm
kyledoes said:
yeah pray for a plague has dropped off...due to lack of funds and transportation our station wagon is in the shop right now as of this evening...sorry to anyone that wanted to see us.
hope to see you all soon.
kyle and p.f.a.p
That sucks balls, hope you guys get that fixed, but Kyle you should still try and get a ride. You'll miss Shaniqua's suprise....




toggletoggle post by silky  at Dec 17,2004 2:25pm
this is the first i've heard about this. we'll be there. I'll find a way.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 17,2004 2:30pm
I'm getting my coughing lungs on for this gig.



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Dec 17,2004 2:31pm
if i can scrounge up the bling, ill be there.



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 17,2004 3:28pm
and i'll be blowing the smoke...

if you need another band to fill in the spot, virgo laceratus said they could play, just try to let me know before too late. i have billy's number and i can call him up, i guess they share a practice space with shroud, but i used to go to school with the bassist and he's cool shit. if you get this before then and want it done call 603-566-7370 and i'll relay the message.

also i just spent 7 hours yesterday printing three color t-shirts for us, within the fray. so bring 7 bucks cause they look damn beautiful. they're heavyweight grey gildan t's with a white, red, and black image on it, i've done silkscreen for 6 years now so i know what i'm doing, this is quality and the ink won't wash out. we only have 45 shirts and sizes XL and SM are very limited, so first come, first serve.

i'll see you bitches tonight!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 17,2004 3:33pm
unfortunatly, I never bring $$ to shows.



toggletoggle post by Nate   at Dec 17,2004 3:53pm
Rev, we should be there time around 8pm... can you still do some photo's??



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 17,2004 5:25pm
diatribal revenge will be playing tonight.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 2:07am
I'm home now.
working on the pictures.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 18,2004 2:13am
Christ ,hurry up slacker



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 2:18am
sorry, hidding carina's xmas gifts before she gets here.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 18,2004 2:36am
Cool Within the Fray pics ,they'll be psyched



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 18,2004 3:03am
The pictures look sick man. It was a good show, although I think Shroud could've had their sound done a little better. The piano was a little high and the guitar was a little low. Overall though, it was great to see drunk people enjoying metal. Especially that 50 year old guy with a beard going crazy during WTF. Haha. That was amazing.



toggletoggle post by Kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 3:05am
how many people showed up??



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 18,2004 3:07am
Not including the bands, like 10. haha.



toggletoggle post by Kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 3:09am
yeah thats how the last 3 shows have been like...sucks.
We need a big name like Great White to get a good draw.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 3:22am
no, seven words... s-t-r-y-p-e-r



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 3:47am
I guess that p4ap didn't get to the venue. unfortunately, since this was the smoothest running bombshelter show I think I've ever attended.

diatribal revenge: I had not known that they were going to play until I got there. Guess I should have read RttP on my cellphone. the beginning of the set was pretty rocky sounding. the vocals were almost unlistenable. After a song or two, the sound guy finished playing giunea pig with dr and the sound came together.

shaniqua and the skull fuckers: and todays outfits? this show, satsf were dressed as.... PANTERA! they even did a cover of hostile for their second song. they had some extra singer that came up for a few songs. They were only slightly crazy this set. Probably cause it was a short set.

leukorrehea: I was in the parking lot talking with serge and senseless mutilation, missing a song one song. sick set, even though they don't hit maximum brutality until after 2am.
my question from their set "what's more octopus like Aegathis's hair or Mike's drumming".

shroud of bereavement: I was in there for their two normal songs and then the begining of the new song. it sounded great. I didn't notice any level issues with the keys. yes, kelly's vocie is sounding better, but so are julie's backup's.

during shroud's "new song" I went out and shot some promo pictures of leukorrehea. this was basically my first time EVER shooting "promo" pictures. I learned a lot, got a couple "ok" pictures and have fun... it made me want to do it more! yes, there was that small part of me on my drive home that thought "imagine if you did promo shots for $100 a session... you would only have to do 17 promo-shot sessions before you could by that 70-200VR lens.", but I digress. In a victory salute, we did jager shots.

within the fray: first time seeing them after missing them the other time, lost in the backstreets of alston. they were the more "moshy" band on the bill. I actually think they sound try to get on that january show at the bombshelter with darken the sky. it reminded me of darken the sky a little, minus the melodic parts and low vocals, but adding some fast brutality borrowed from cephalic carnage.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 18,2004 5:48am
Maybe you will learn to spell LEUKORRHEA correctly.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 18,2004 5:52am
He had it closer than Serge did, in his date book



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 18,2004 7:31am
look at the TIME of the review..you stay up that long and make no typos



toggletoggle post by Aegathis nli at Dec 18,2004 7:32am
Hey did any one see ym back pack??



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 18,2004 8:14am
I'm pretty sure I left my back pack in there, its black and it had a bunch of guitar cords and shit in it . Please let me know if its still there.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 10:07am
oh, I just c+p the way I spelled it last time...
but I did look at and and thought "I don't think there is an 'e' there... oh well, someone would have corrected by spelling last show if there wasn't"



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 18,2004 10:43am
hey thanks to everyone there last night. we had fun and thanks to all that went to our party last night. i think there were more people in my appartment than at the club last night. all the bands did a great job!
thanks againg to AAron and Jeremy, all the bands and all at the bombshelter. \m/



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 18,2004 11:13am
dude, that drunk guy that was jumping around going apeshit during our set was awesome, someone get his adress, hes getting a christmas card.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 18,2004 11:16am
I thought he was your dad..



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 18,2004 11:27am
Does any one have a number i can call to get in touch with the bombshelter people on finding out whether or not my bag is there?



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 18,2004 11:38am
you know, maybe it was... he is a binge drinker and he has disappeared, last time i checked he had a full set of teeth though, but you never know...



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 18,2004 12:05pm
i think i saw your bag on the left side of the room facing the stage when i was leaving, i was gonna go see what it was but i was too lazy. too bad i didn't, could've earned myself a birthday present. although maybe i would've asked if it was anyone's bag if everyone hadn't left already.

but thanks to everyone who stayed last night (all 3 of you who didn't come with us). i guess i gotta get used to all the other bands leaving once they're done playing.

d revenge, pending the sound mix mistakes you guys sounded good, but the vocals were definitely hard to pick out. Shanequa was awesome, second time i saw them, loved it. loved it. nice touch with the king of beers. Dimmupeth was ok, but they took 40 minutes to set up and 20 to break down, kind of dissapointing to play after. i tried not to laugh when the sound guy said "you have time for about one more solo". i liked what i heard, but i'd rather listen to that type of music on a cd, rather than in a bar. leukorrhea was fucking sick, best death metal vox i've heard this side of the state line. i didn't get to see the whole set though, i had to visit a green monster behind the building with mr. thinz. really wished i had saved that trip for when shroud was setting up, but we had no idea when we were playing.

again thanks to everyone who cared to stick around for the end of the night, thanks rev for shooting some nasty pics, thanks random drunk guy for moshing with bill, reno, and pj, your beard was knarly rad, thanks todd for checking us out again, and thanks to who ever got us on this show in the first place. it was a good way to waste my 22nd birthday, i could've been face deep in my girlfriend's wonderful titties, or back in milford trashed with people who cared about me, but any chance to rock with my 4 brothers is better than none.



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 18,2004 1:41pm
This was a great night, all of the bands were great, sorry to Within the Fray, I had to leave before your set,and also sorry to dan for not going to the party after,I was pretty drunk when I left. We need to find a way to get a better draw though, I don't think we've ever played in front of more than 20 people there,actually I don't think I 've even seen 20 people there.



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 18,2004 1:43pm
Thanks to Dan from shroud for hooking us up with this show,and thanks to The Rev for shooting us. We'll freak out for you better next time, we could barely move on that stage.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 3:03pm
a good draw would be nice. How much was it to get in??



toggletoggle post by ayin at Dec 18,2004 3:24pm
shaniqua didn't go as nut's cuz there was alot of shit around us that wasn't ours and that fuckin' wall made me feel like a caged animal it sucked.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 4:16pm
I was told there was gonna be no wall and a new sound system and people there....but I guess the bombshelter still sucks.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 4:25pm
I mean more people come to the aviary and we dont even have a bathroom.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bmbshelter) at Dec 18,2004 4:28pm
kyledoes said:
I was told there was gonna be no wall and a new sound system and people there....but I guess the bombshelter still sucks.


The wall is coming down, I did not say when because i do not know, the Staff there all have regular full time jobs ,so these things will take time there mouthy so be fuckin patient



toggletoggle post by Todd(bmbshelter) at Dec 18,2004 4:29pm
Aegathis said:
Does any one have a number i can call to get in touch with the bombshelter people on finding out whether or not my bag is there?


I have it ,see the other thread to get in touch with me



toggletoggle post by nate   at Dec 18,2004 4:38pm edited Dec 18,2004 4:40pm
Todd, thanks for holding onto that for him. We all know how shit get's permantly lost most of the time, so I appreciate the fact you've got it and holding onto it.

Great show last night, we had a lot of (drunken) fun and the other bands sounded damn good. Could have been more people but whatever, it was a kick ass time as always at the BS! I had a MASSIVE hangover this moring, due to Doug from Senseless Mutilation buying shots all night, shit!



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 18,2004 4:44pm
just kick the fucking wall over and have c.s.d.o. play every night and everything will be fine.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bmbshelter) at Dec 18,2004 4:44pm
No problem,He's not online or home now is he? I have no way of gettin hold of him except for on here, I left my e-mail in the other thread ,he can get hold of me and we can meet or at least exchange numbers and arrange something



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 18,2004 4:46pm
haha i just realized i forgot the "o" in my S/N in my last 3 posts



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 18,2004 6:08pm
yeah, i heard from a bunch of people that the radio channels were saying that people going on 93 shouldnt drive up or some bullshit. gayness. fuck the radio. and WTF sorry we took so long. 7 members is tough, if we cant hear each other it really brings some bad chances for disaster, and we just have had too many of those experiances. and getting off the stage i had an accident with some spilt milk, got all over my leg, hands and guitar. all in all i really had a great time, and all the bands rocked. thanks to SATSF for the shirt, and thanks to DR for buying our merch. \m/ hails



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 18,2004 6:27pm
Yea I-93 south bound was closed so that added on about another 2 hours to mine and Nate's journey back. About a total of 4 hours driving, and I couldnt sleep when I got back. I hate when that happens.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 18,2004 6:33pm
that blow big time.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 18,2004 6:53pm
the_reverend said:

leukorrehea: I was in the parking lot talking with serge and senseless mutilation, missing a song one song. sick set, even though they don't hit maximum brutality until after 2am.
my question from their set "what's more octopus like Aegathis's hair or Mike's drumming"..


My real names Anthony by the way, and I cant comment on whats more Octopussy



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Dec 18,2004 8:51pm
hey adam time, I believe I heard the sound guy say "you have time for a short one". All of Shroud stuck around for your band just to be clear, I always stay for the bands I play with.
Next time, I won't waste my time either. Its always disappointing to me when I find out there is a hardcore band on the bill, especially a mediocre one at best.



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 19,2004 1:17am
i didn't say anything about wasting my time, but i know if in almost any small show situation where there were this many bands on the bill, my band were to take over an hour and 30 minutes for their set, anyone playing after us would be pissed. i think considering we were playing first, yet our second guitarist was real late, it was only fair to be playing last; but if one of your keyboardists wasn't coming until the end of the show and you felt you couldn't play without 'em, you'd be in the same situation. and after everyone sits through half of that extra long set and leaves before your band plays, it could be a real shit chomper. and next time you want to complain about a hardcore band being on the bill, try linking that type of music to a band who fits the description. it must "always" be dissapointing to find there's a band that's more "dancy" and less "sleepy". on a scale from one to ten of mediocricy, tell me, where would your band be? and if you score higher than you think we would, tell me why you aren't doing any better than a few fucks in a "hardcore" band. where's your tour bus and your agent? originality holding you back? no one understands your music? aw, i'm sorry. call me when you're actually better than me, and i'll apologize for being such a dick and doubting your self confirmed delusions of grandeur.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 19,2004 1:41am edited Dec 19,2004 1:43am
Ok not to start anything here, but both of you should just leave this whole pissing contest behind, as I; being the entire creative force behind Shroud, am the only one that truly could answes such a question. I would not want to shame any such people unto compunction.
Indeed we play music light years apart, and I must say that I am proud of the fact that we aren't "dancy" call us sleepy all you want. Furthermore, had i known that you were a "mall core" band i certainly would not have booked you. You guys made me walk away in sheer anger, due to a bunch of 14 year olds dressed like a bunch of spoiled moma's boy "dancing" a bit to close to myself. You don't know how many people were on the virge of losing it, and thats why no one was up there for you. There were plenty of people at the bar and outside. Sorry but "Dancing" isn't for me. good luck in the future and thanks for being there either way. You guys played a good set for what it was.

And I wouldn't waste my dime on that call there bud!!!



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 1:58am
within the fray sorry but within the last show at the b.s. and this one..you guys are fucking faggots!!! seriously we are assholes but you guys are fucking stupid.
fuck you.
kyle and pray for a plague.
fuck you. shroud can take as long as they want they set up the show. Fuck you.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 2:04am
you are right dyingmuse mall core is a good way to put it a 2 cent rip off of the red chord and unearth. Shroud has so much more musical integrity than you will ever have.
fuck you again.
the people that didnt show up.



toggletoggle post by Dr. State at Dec 19,2004 2:20am
within the last show at the b.s. , thats cute. and where did this term mall core come from? is it because they werent wearing band shirts or chicks pants? heaven forbid someone should wear a sweater in a metal band, wow. i always thought shows were about music. guess i was wrong. its cool if you guys dont hold the mental capacity to apreciate a good band when you hear one. and last time i checked, there are about a thousdand other bands that have ripped off the red chord and unearth, and pretty much every other band that made this kind of music popular. at least they take the time to write more than thrash beats and two note breakdowns. So basically, anyone who has a problem with WTF can go fuck themselves, because regardless of what you think of their music or "image", those kids are some of the nicest down to earth cats youll ever meet. get over yourselves, none of you are rock stars yet.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 2:38am
this whole thing has nothing to do with what you wear,It is the complete shit that you play. We are not rock stars we are nothing at all. The whole thing is you guys are pretty new as far as playing shows in this area and you guys have the nerve to pick everyone apart even those who give you shows...(mall-core as in people jerk off to your breakdowns onto white studded belts in pac suns nation wide.)trends are awesome!!!keep up the good work!!



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 2:55am
listen to bloodbath......like fire!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 19,2004 3:56am
Honestly, I thought all of the bands did a great job. I don't understand where all of this shit came from. Different types of bands play the same shows from time to time... it's just the way it works out. I don't think he meant anything by saying "sleepy". It is true, Shroud is a great set of musicians with a killer sound... I freakin' love them. However I do agree that it wasn't the right list of bands for them at this show in particular. They should try and find some bands that have a more similar sound the next time they set one up. And I only saw one person dancing during WTF, and it was some scene kid with long hair that danced for everybody, all of the bands... (and that drunk dude with the riduclously kickass beard) There was just tension over the set times and I don't think it was quite as expected for anybody. And as far as the whole mall core thing, that's just stupid. Pac sun nation studded belts blah blah blah what the fuck? You put a little too much thought into that pal. Not starting anything... but seriously dude. Mallcore? Ugh. WTF is a great set of guys who love playing their music, it gets frustrating when shit doesn't turn out the way you want it to. It's happened to us all. Give em' a break dude.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 19,2004 5:39am
whoahh, I was talking about their fans for one man, the jerkoff kids kicking the stage about an inch away from me and the other kid that slammed into me about 18 times! I was trying to show my support to the ban by standing front row, and banging my head, and I truly wanted to check them out!
Now as far as them trying to say they are better than me...ha ha ha ha....they are doing what every other mall core band is doing. Look at the young kids, what are they listening to? Fucking metal core and they all sound the same...see my fucking I hate metalcore thread!
and I appreciated them till they talked smack! And kyledoes, I'm with ya man, they have no respect, I booked the show, and listen to this....they were trying to beat us to the stage and take our fucking set time...I posted the order here 3 weeks ago! And they did the same to Lukorhea! Thats another reason why we took our time, that and we were told we had time! We never played those songs in that order before, we did our new song! Whatever, not trying to start shit. I was just taking my drummers back on his post, becausehe had every right. Read that jerkoffs post and then read his. He was just putting that guys words back at him. They started with the disrespect. And fuck it for the record guy, if you want to keep running your mouth, call me when you can write,play my music. I think i could play 3 chords and jump up and down like a retard pretty easily. Actually I could play any of WTF's instruments, I'll sing, play guitar, play the drums and play the bass for your band any day and I'll do it better! And yeah you may be to simpleminded to understand what my music is all about! I made a mistake, I took a chance, I put all different kinds of bands on there thinking that they all would bring a diverse crowd, guess not! hails to Kyledoes and Multipass I hear what you are saying and I agree about 80% \m/ lets just forget this whole thing now ok. this could quite possibly go on for years now.



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Dec 19,2004 10:25am
First off, read the 1st post by adam time if you are unsure where this started. It sure didn't help us get on stage any sooner when WTF had all their equipment staged on the side stage in our way and we had to remind them when they were going on after they started to set up during our slot. Secondly, all I said is I didn't like their music, still, I stuck around for their entire set. I really don't think about it in a way that Shroud is better or worse than any other band, there is no easy way to compare our music outside of our genre, either you like it or not. You guys sure know how to burn a bridge when we were the ones who put you on that bill. One day soon I'm gonna drop the next hardcore kid who fucking inadvertantly kicks me while doing a half assed gay round house kick as part of his gay dancing.
Hey this is a metal vs hardcore website, right? May the most hatefull win.



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 19,2004 10:57am
yo as far as your "mallcore" term, i wear what the fuck i want to wear to a show, i wake up in the morning throw on a shirt and get a coffee and smoke a butt. maybe i could be considered mallcore because i dont sit in my room staring at all my faded band shirts and ripped jeans for 20 minutes ripping my hair out. If anything I'm more anti-scene than you, and i dont even know you. so give it a rest pal, Dr. State is right, its music, who gives a fuck what you wear.

but lets be serious here, i liked your band. i love opeth, i like doom metal and black metal. there was just way too much tension that night, and to keep bitching at eachother being dog fuckers over this is queer. give it up, when was the last time adam time posted a response to your jargin, quite obviouslyhe doesnt care anymore, and you're sitting in front of your computer waiting for every little comment you can respond to, and i'll tell you this right now, none of us are losing sleep over the fact that you didnt like us, in fact I may even sleep better. So call it a night, okay butch?



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 19,2004 11:01am
haha, hey kyledoesn't, get outta this fight, you wouldn't know what music was if you were forced to listen to it. go take your slop grind somewhere else. you've just got your undies packed up your ass because of a show that happened months ago with the worst bombshelter turn out that i've seen... and wow, we're trendy, lookout, oh no! i really could care less where we play in the set list at almost any show, and the difference of the crowd size in playing last that night really wasn't that much, cause there was nobody but the bands + 1 or 2 friends in the first place. and look, i apologize for my band members being impatient and wanting to go on, but none of us knew when we were playing. everyone expects me to know so they asked me, i said we were playing last cause i figured that was fair for us not playing first. my drummer asked the sound dude when we were going on and he said go set up now, and he went to get his shit on stage, i'm sorry they were impatient but it's not my fault they were unclear on what was happening. if i had known they were trying to weasel their way on stage i would've slapped them, cause they were acting like little bitches. but mallcore? seriously, did you even hear what we sounded like? dyingmuse i saw you watching us and that was cool, but don't get pissed cause a few kids wanted to move around. so they may have been moving around like assholes but i can't controll that. also i didn't say we were better than you, i think both our bands are mediocre in our respective genre, which is why we're playing the bombshelter and not bringing kids to the shows. if you think you're more than mediocre you might wanna try and get an ubiased opinion to tell you you're better than the average band, because friday night i was unbiased and it wasn't anything i hadn't seen before aside from having 2 female vocalists. and as for young kids listening to metal core, the first metal band i could bear to listen to was dimmu borgir, and doom metal was the easiest thing i could understand. i could easily play your music, as easily as i could play mine, we're musicians and to get into an argument of skill is ludacris. but to say you could do it better, wow kid, think a little highly of yourself? you got a small penis or something? stop trying to make yourself sound incredible, you're not all you make yourself out to be. and i'm sorry i'm too simple minded to understand your eerieness, but that opeth shirt you were wearing just lead to me calling you dimmupeth, and i don't consider that an insult, i love opeth, they're one of my top 10 metal bands. the whole point of this wasn't to start a fight about our band's integrity, and to compare our bands to eachother is like comparing miles davis to led zeppelin, the point of my statements above were to say that the extra long set was unappreciated, and you don't have to like that. but insult my band and i'm gonna insult you, because none of you really know what we're like, and we could care less if you think we're fucking "mallcore" or if you think we have talent at all. but you're right, it probably wasn't a good idea to try and create a diverse bill, and you're the best example of that to date, other kids wanted to move and you couldn't hang with that, and when your band played i couldn't hang either. i really thought you guys were ok, and i said that, but it's just not my type of music, and i said that, too. no reason to get pissed about personal preference, i really didn't think i would've damaged your self perception, sorry for not being so sensitive to your feelings.
pussy.



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Dec 19,2004 11:16am
read your post again, you took a stab at shroud. I respect your opinion, but if you're going to insult, then you're going to get a response.
faggot. looking forward to meeting you in person.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 11:23am
And kyledoes, I'm with ya man, they have no respect, I booked the show, and listen to this....they were trying to beat us to the stage and take our fucking set time...I posted the order here 3 weeks ago! And they did the same to Lukorhea!....(We may be slop grind but we never disrespected anybody when we started out playing shows..)This is not a fight..I am generally an asshole.



toggletoggle post by eric at Dec 19,2004 11:25am
i'm in within the fray. first, i'd like to say that the only reason we were trying to get on stage before lukorhea is because the sound guy told us to go on next. the reason why we tried to get on stage again is because we figured if lukorhea took our spot then, we must be next. we have no idea who is playing those shows, nor do we know when to play... when all your communication is done through this messageboard, it gets confusing.
next, i would like to add that our music is blatantly NOT three power chords. if you listened to us for more than two seconds, you would realize that you're very wrong. i enjoyed shroud for what it was, but how can you compare skill level based on what notes were being played on guitar? if i wanted to compare shroud riffs to within the fray riffs, its a completely different story. if you wanted me to get on stage and play opeth, i could - i love them - they're not my style of writing.
ok guys, so everybody can stop whining about mallcore and opeth ripoffs because you are all wrong and acting like fucking babies. grow up.



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Dec 19,2004 11:30am
eric, I hear you. I believe adam time brought up the comparing of bands. everyone else was just responding.



toggletoggle post by eric at Dec 19,2004 11:32am
also, we didn't "just start out playing shows" - we just started playing at the bombshelter. we've being playing out for about two years.



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 19,2004 12:43pm
By the way, dyingmuse. As for the "14 year olds" dancing that made you walk away in sheer anger... I happened to be one of them, and I'm 20 not 14. These guys are pals of mine, and I like to support em by moving around a bit for them. That's all. Shroud and my band played together at the Raven last year in Wareham, MA. I recorded your entire set on video. I got one of your demos. I listened to it all of the time. Not anymore man. Honestly, I fucking love music. I really don't care what it is. I'm listening to the Final Fantasy 8 Piano Soundtrack right now, and loving it. Oh and hey, I'm wearing an Opeth shirt... go figure. But when people start making fun of a crowd, because they get into music a little differently, that's not cool. Certain people do it differently, you should respect that. I sure as hell respect those who choose not move around. Just because you're music may have a deeper meaning to you(and I'm sure it does, it's an amazing sound) I just don't see how standing still and drinking a beer makes you better than me if I decide to move around a bit. You honestly have to come down off of your high horse and realize that your band is no place to downtalk. No ones band is, unless you're one of the greats. Which you, or any band at that show was not. Please, just realize that and have some respect for the way certain people respond to music that they love. I stood in front for your band for two or 3 of the songs. I wasn't up there at the end because my legs hurt, otherwise you would've seen me up there. That is not an attack saying you guys went on too long, my legs really did hurt I had been standing for awhile. But honestly, give the "I'm older and more mature and better than everyone" thing a rest man. By the way, I look forward to purchasing an album next chance I get... when is your next show? I know you mentioned it I just can't remember, I was tired.



toggletoggle post by jtc at Dec 19,2004 1:03pm
haha, this message board made my morning.



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 19,2004 1:05pm
thicurs? haha. yessss.



toggletoggle post by adam_huge_is_my_hero   at Dec 19,2004 1:14pm
i'm glad i just wasted time reading this thread. you're all the bosses.



toggletoggle post by kyledoes  at Dec 19,2004 1:58pm
fuck this I am gonna start a rap metal band!!
this thread is fucking hilarious..getting people going through a computer.
the 90's rule the internet really is the wave of the future!!!
I invented the lobster you fucking faggot.



toggletoggle post by adam_huge_is_my_hero   at Dec 19,2004 4:37pm
that's funny. ^



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 19,2004 4:45pm
Lets stick to the subject at hand , whats more octopuss like ?



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 19,2004 6:25pm
lol this thread is funny as hell. ok i guess i was just responding to the negative shit. i did go off a bit, and at the time i hadn't slept for 3 days. i respect every single band and crowd goer more than any of you know. i try to support all the bands, even if it's not my thing, i still stand there and support. as far as the clothes thing goes, i don't care if you wear fucking dresses, i just don't like being kicked and pushed after laying brick all day in the freezing cold, not sleeping in 2 days, being laid off and every other thing that sucks in my life. the point is, i just wanted to drink my beer and watch you guys jam. i guess i was a bit harsh, bit i was a bit offended with what was said above. and as far as me saying i could play any of your instruments....well i wasn't being egotistical, i was being honest, i didn't hear anything that i couldnt play, and im not saying that now to offend you. i am actually the most insecure, deppressed loser you will ever meet. so forget about thinking that am full of myself. ask anyone on this board that knows me. we truly are worlds apart musically, and still i do respect that, you guys do good at what you do, so keep doing it! just ease up on the insults. hails!

and mulitpass, fuck man, i knew you looked familiar! whats up man? good to hear from ya, lol a bit weird to re-meet this way..lol you rock!

\m/
are we all ok now?


cheers



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 19,2004 7:01pm
dyingmuse said:
, i just don't like being kicked and pushed after laying brick all day in the freezing cold

Don't stand close to the stage when there is gonna be moshing/dancing goin on.


i didn't hear anything that i couldnt play.

You were not listening good enough you were too pissed off at the whole set time/peolple bumping into you thing? They (wtf) are a pretty technical band,get the demo and listen to it with an open mind


they deffinately are not mall core,I don't know how you all do it in Mass,But here we like to try and mix shit up if you cannot exist at a show with other bands of different style,then you should really hang it up now(are they really that different?, They are extreme metal as far as i knew ,just like shaniqua,leukorrhea,or shroud ,for that matter).

As far as them goin on,Rob(soundguy) and myself were under the impression that they were on first, but their guitarist was not there at the time, So.... Rob told me to tell them that they could go on when he got there. So if ya wanna blame anyone, blame Rob, but he will just tell you to go fuck your self ,he was just doin what he was supposed to do according to YOUR set times.





toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 19,2004 7:51pm
what the fucking gay happend here?



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 19,2004 8:53pm
FUCKING OCTOPUSS!!



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 20,2004 1:37am
Dyingmuse, yeah haha. I wasn't sure if you would remember me or not, that show was a long time ago. You guys played a great set that night, although that bar was sort of shady as hell. Haha, you rock too bro! Keep on doin' your thing man. I look forward to hearing the new shit, seeya around meng.



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 20,2004 2:03am
I love Todd.



toggletoggle post by milkydeathgrind   at Dec 20,2004 2:41am
hold on basketball is on again......slam dunk!!!!!
life is so funn!!!!!



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 20,2004 2:43am
Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night.



toggletoggle post by JonahBloodbath   at Dec 20,2004 3:02am
Not that this really matters, but Within the Fray is not a hardcore band. They don't sound like minor threat. Within the Fray is a metal band, deal with it.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 20,2004 3:13am
multipass said:
Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night.


he's not logged in that's why you can't click..but i'm sure he'll see this soon and reply



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Dec 20,2004 5:29am
JonahBloodbath said:
Not that this really matters, but Within the Fray is not a hardcore band. They don't sound like minor threat. Within the Fray is a metal band, deal with it.


metalcore rulez



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 20,2004 11:32am
you guys need to realize that bashing metalcore isn't going to effect anything. people are going to play what they want just as you are. it will only make more people hate you or your band, but none of you care I'm sure.

hahahaha



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 20,2004 12:13pm
hey rustedanal, how was the show in ny? looked like a great time! did you guys rock?



toggletoggle post by adam_time   at Dec 20,2004 12:21pm
hahaha, water under the bridge, guys. i really didn't mean to offend your band by what i said, i guess i shouldn't have written a post as soon as i woke up, cause i generally hate the world in the morning. but i seriously thought the guy said you have time for about one more solo, and i should've kept my mouth shut, but i just thought that was a mean thing to say. if i wasn't half deaf in my right ear i probably would've heard the "time for one more short one" statement, but sorry to call that out anyway. as i said i liked your sound, but i was extremely agitated about it at the time, and i realize now i was just being a sloppy cock cause i wanted to play and get home to be drunk on my birthday, and the long setup just pushed me off the edge. but good luck to you guys in the future, just try not to call people mallcore, cause that's almost as bad as saying we sound like godsmack... which is obviously the most devious insult ever.

sincerely bleeding through the eye sockets in a regretful fashion,
~adam time

can i get a "my bandana is blue and my dreads are hangy like silk worms"
drums=octopus
hair=hangy silk worms
anthony, hope you found your bag, brah.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Dec 20,2004 12:25pm
dyingmuse said:
hey rustedanal, how was the show in ny? looked like a great time! did you guys rock?


dan it was awesome, free food, free drafts for bands (though I don't drink) and sick bands. can't wait to go back in jan.



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Dec 20,2004 12:38pm
whats happening in January? can we play? I actually talked to todd last night about my back pack by the way.



toggletoggle post by kellthevalkyrie  at Dec 20,2004 12:49pm
well. this thread turned pretty gay. i had a lot of fun, and so did the people that came with me.

thanks to all the bands that played. thanks to Aaron for taking the time to come out to this show.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 20,2004 2:57pm
thanks to kelly for bringing the fun peeps to our party. but you can't beat troll and chug of mutilation. they are the bosses of party!



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 21,2004 12:59am
multipass said:
Yo todd, btw, I'm the semi-bald kid that talked to you at the show, (Sean). I can't click your name for some reason, so is there another way I can get a hold of you? Thanks man, have a good night.



My E-mail is Canniballust666@yahoo.com, I am sorry I have not had a free moment to call you, you can reach me at this addy



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 21,2004 1:00am
sean_streets said:
I love Todd.





toggletoggle post by b00bies at Dec 21,2004 9:07am
A lot of people do



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 21,2004 10:34am
i love bOObies too, possibly, no... definetely more.



toggletoggle post by multipass   at Dec 21,2004 11:57am
no dude, boobs suck. what you need is a nice stiff cock. trust me, you'll feel like a new man afterwards.



toggletoggle post by sean_streets   at Dec 21,2004 12:03pm
hahaha, nah dude, ive seen its after effects.



toggletoggle post by PJThinz at Dec 21,2004 12:59pm edited Dec 21,2004 1:13pm
.....wow........



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 21,2004 1:13pm
hes not 40, hes not even 30



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 21,2004 1:24pm
ahahahaha



toggletoggle post by Aegathis at Dec 21,2004 1:35pm
that was me by the way



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Dec 21,2004 7:54pm
b00bies said:
A lot of people do




Huh,News to me



toggletoggle post by Scoracrasia   at Dec 23,2004 9:09am
Hey Nate, Thanks for telling me about this show at the BS AFTER it happened. you deserved that hangover ya bastard!



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Dec 23,2004 11:01am



ah-hahahahahahahahhahhahaahhahah LOL



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 23,2004 6:07pm
Metalcore sucks shroud sucks worse.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Dec 23,2004 6:32pm
yeah you are a tough guy there anonymous.
but i'm with ya that shroud band sucks



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