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returntothepit >> discuss >> So we're playing Jarrod's Place by sacreligion on Nov 22,2004 4:30am
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toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Nov 22,2004 4:30am
And we sure could use all the metalhead support we could get. we can show everyones favorite buddy jarrod that metal is far superior to his usual shenanigan acts

Saturday, November 27 @ Jarrod's Place(31 Bank St.) Attleboro, MA

Rolling Rock Battle of the Bands

Sacreligion
Market St.
Shavahawk
The Fallen Heroes

18+ : $7 : 8PM



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 22,2004 5:13am
Ha Ha ! so gay, fuck that place



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 22,2004 6:15am
eat a dick



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Nov 22,2004 7:04am
JARROD'S IS GAY
why would you play there and secondly why would you post it in a place where people despise that horrid club



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 22,2004 7:24am
eat a dick

oooh that'll get me to go, that club is so fucking lame, i understand bands wanna play out but a club that forces you to sell tickets and oh yeah you gotta sell so many before you see any money is fucking gay, homosexuality. case closed, that place should had burnt to the ground instead of the Station and further more entering a Battle of the Band there i saw you guys at the Choppin' Block..i figured you guys better then a BotB type. but whatever floats your boat.



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Nov 22,2004 8:27am
whiskey_weed_and_women said:
eat a dick



i am pretty sure he was refering to the begining post, cause no one likes jarrods not even M.S.D.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 22,2004 9:21am
i hate battles, but good luck with it.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 22,2004 9:30am
sacreligion is the only band on that bill I've heard... please don't tell me those other 3 bands are WAAF bands? ugh.

and a battle of the bands too, jesus. good luck with that.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 22,2004 10:38am
You lost me at "jarrod's".

While you're there, burn it to the ground for us. Thanks.



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Nov 22,2004 12:46pm
FUCK JARROD'S!



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 22,2004 4:37pm
we don't specifically care about where we play...everyone seems to get real anal about that

to be honest with you a friend of mine did the online booking thing for us...and then it ended up being a BOTB...i mean what's the worst that could happen free beer?

we sound mint there too

everyone here has real issues with resolving problems



toggletoggle post by nate   at Nov 22,2004 4:45pm
sacreligionNLI said:
i mean what's the worst that could happen free beer?



good luck on that, Jarrod and the pricks over there have never given anything free that I know of. They'll surely charge you for it though.



toggletoggle post by Bradness at Nov 22,2004 4:58pm
der. just...DER!



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 22,2004 5:04pm
nothing like playing to the bartender and eating ticket prices. in attleboro.



toggletoggle post by CongoogetalZobotomy  at Nov 22,2004 5:08pm
i use to practice in easton across from market st. they will win because they bring 100 of their friends to the show then go back to their space and get trashed.... they are nu-skametal theres horns and shit in their songs...kind weird. but bad



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Nov 22,2004 5:13pm
there should be a metal battle of the bands. or better yet just a show where metal bands play....



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 22,2004 5:34pm
or better yet... just a battle... bring your own weapons and kill eachother, the winner burns down the establishment.... i want in



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 22,2004 6:16pm
make sure you use fireworks, and oh yeah gasoline throw it all over the place, then make sure not to have your shit inside then run man run. place is in the middle of nowhere and yeah you are gonna literally be playing in front of the bartender and other bands, i've seen that place packed once....and that show was for BIohazard, Clutch, Candiria, and Scissorfight. god i hate that place



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 23,2004 2:29pm
haha we sound mint there though. i said this over on BSR to one of the BOE guys too, we've never had ticket issues with jarrod. i didnt even pick any up for this show...we're just gonna bring tons of people at the door. sounds to me like some of you guys weren't handling your shit properly. greedy people need to be handled with a certain sense of not giving a fuck



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Nov 23,2004 2:55pm
sacreligionNLI said:
we don't specifically care about where we play...everyone seems to get real anal about that

to be honest with you a friend of mine did the online booking thing for us...and then it ended up being a BOTB...i mean what's the worst that could happen free beer?

we sound mint there too

everyone here has real issues with resolving problems


your degrading your band buy supporting a club that doesnt support the little bands if bands started to stop playing there he would be forced to re think his policy in so many ways

you have to sell 25 tix to get the ber tickets thats part of his written policy unles it has changed in the last year

i have no problem with resolving the problem the problem is jarrod and his club if bands stop playing there he will be forced to close problem solved





the end




toggletoggle post by PaganMegan   at Nov 23,2004 3:30pm
I tend to agree more clubs need to rethink their policies towards metal and just bands in general
less shit more music



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 23,2004 5:11pm
and no, i've known people to handle the club that way and to show at the show with Jarrod telling them, "oh you didn't pick up tickets, so we cancelled your spot on the show."



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 23,2004 6:05pm
ahh his ole' pick up the tickets nonsense. I remember after dealing with that guys bullshit for awhile we had a show there again and decided to play strictly by his rules and see what happens. Me and Joe called the club twice to pick up tickets but the guy handling the phone kept saying Jarrod was busy playing pool and couldn't be disturbed.



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 25,2004 4:23pm
meh



toggletoggle post by jarrod my club my rules at Nov 25,2004 4:39pm
JARROD'S LIVE ROCK VENUE " OPEN DATES"

Please keep in mind while reading this that this is a general message sent out to everyone listed on Jarrod's e-mail list. When and if you reply to this e-mail, please list all details of the show you are interested in booking.

"IF THIS E-MAIL WAS SENT TO YOU BY MISTAKE AND YOU WISH TO BE TAKEN OFF THE OPEN DATES WEEKLY MAIL OUT FOR DATES AT JARROD'S LIVE ROCK VENUE - SIMPLY REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL AND STATE THAT YOU WISH TO BE TAKEN OF THE OPEN DATES MAIL OUT LIST."

OPEN DATES
This Saturday Nov.27th, 2004 - "ROUND #3 of the Rolling Rock Battle Of The Bands" I have 2 spots open 8:45 & 11:00pm. I need to fill these spots ASAP. You could win $5,000 READ BELOW !!
PLEASE GET BACK TO ME ASAP TO CONFIRM !
Thank you,


Jarrod Ilkowitz / Jarrod's Live Rock Venue
508-222-8878 Monday-Thursday 2pm-6pm

RULES BELOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Rolling Rock Battle Of The Bands

1st place - $5,000.00 CASH
2nd place - $1,000.00 CASH
3rd place - $500.00 CASH

Plus added $$$ for the winner at the Finals and Rolling Rock gear give away's for you and your fans.

Dates : Round 1 (Nov. 6th, 2004) Round 2 (Nov.20th, 2004) Round 3 (Nov.27th, 2004) Round 4 (Dec.11th, 2004) Finals (Dec 18th, 2004)

Rules & Judging- Each band will have 100 tickets of which (75) will have to be sold to quailfiy for the finals. Ticket holders will have to attend to vote. The Tickets will be sold for $10.00 each. Every (25) ticket holders/fans will qualify as 1 vote. Judging is based on fan votes and a judge. The judge is allowed 2 votes on the opening rounds. The judge is also there to protect against fraudulent votes on the opening rounds. The judge will be allowed 1 vote on the finals December 18th, 2004. If a band is found guilty of voting fraud they will be disqualified from the contest. A minimum of 3 votes will have to be cast to qualify for the finals. There will be a voting sheet which will be filled out by the voter and then signed by a Jarrod's LRV staff member, this is to ensure there are no mistakes or fraudulent votes. 3 bands will qualify from each round. A total of 12 bands will compete on December 18th, 2004. The finals will be starting at 1:00 pm on December 18th, 2004 and will continue through the night. Bands will have set times picked out of a hat to ensure that the set times are fair, this will be done on a date agreed apon by all involved. There should be 1 representative from each band available to meet at a time agreed apon to draw the set times for the finals. A date that will be available is Wednesday December 9th at 6:00pm. The Rules for finals are the same as above except the judge is only allowed 1 vote. You must have at least 3 votes to win. The Minimum payout for 1st place is $5,000.00 cash. There will be added money for the winner which will be announced sometime prior to the finals. Good luck and enjoy the 1st annual Jarrod's Live Rock Venue & Rolling Rock Battle Of The Bands.

Sincerely,
Jarrod Ilkowitz: Jarrod's Live Rock Venue
& Rolling Rock Massachusetts Area Representative's
508-222-8878
Rolling Rock Battle Of The Bands – VOTE MODIFICATION



The original rules state that each band must sell 75 tickets or have 3 votes to advance to the finals. The rules have been modified to protect contestants from being passed on or not advancing. If you have less than 3 votes you will be held on stand by. In the original rules it was explained that there would be 3 bands from each round that would move on to the finals but, it also stated that you must have 3 votes to advance. The original rules do not protect bands that have more votes. The modified version of this is listed below.



Example-

Band #1 – Has 75 votes (which will count as 3 total votes)

Band #2 – Has 50 votes and 1 vote by the judge (this is counted as 3 total votes)

Band #3 – Has 10 votes with no judge vote (this band still has a chance to advance but, is not guaranteed a spot on the finals) EXPLANATION BELOW !

There is a possibility that this could happen in each round. In which case the band who has the most amount of votes/ballots will advance. This vote count will include all rounds of the contest. Each band from each round will be on stand by till they are either notified that they are advanced or notified that they are not qualified. The results will be sent to each band participating 1 day after the final round. The bands that are qualified will be posted on the website. The bands that are in stand by will be notified of the stand by.



Thank you,

Jarrod Ilkowitz/ Jarrod’s Live Rock Venue "Rolling Rock Battle Of The Bands"





toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 25,2004 5:24pm
why aren't you playing pool?



toggletoggle post by jarrod my club my rules at Nov 25,2004 5:32pm
because sergio is sticking the pool stick in my ass while i suck him off



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 25,2004 5:39pm
you guys are so retarded.



toggletoggle post by nutsacreligion at Nov 25,2004 6:32pm
we're retarded, yet you are playing that show with those rules he has set up, you may want to re-think that.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 25,2004 7:34pm
I for one, have not heard your band or having anything against you guys. I don't think anyone here is ragging on your band at all. It just seems that they all have a strong disliking for jarrod.



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 25,2004 9:47pm
sacreligionNLI said:
to be honest with you a friend of mine did the online booking thing for us...and then it ended up being a BOTB...i mean what's the worst that could happen free beer?

everyone here has real issues with resolving problems


you have real issues with reality if you think you're going to get ANYTHING free there

except the reaming



toggletoggle post by CandyStriperDeathOrgy  at Nov 26,2004 2:24am
I know a lot of you don't like JARROD's..... We've always been treated well there. We've had to sell tickets in the past. It was a little bit of a struggle... But, we did it..... If you work with him he'll work with you....




toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Nov 26,2004 6:22am
no he won't



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 26,2004 6:34am
a band i played in was booked there along with another band; package deal, $500. the other band cancelled on the day of the show. Jarrod called us and told us they cancelled and asked if we could do two sets. we said yes. we came down, played two sets, and got paid NOTHING. Jarrod told us AFTER WE PLAYED BOTH SETS that the original deal was for the package, when the other band cancelled the deal was off.

This is the scumbag you are working with. good luck.



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 26,2004 6:37am
both bands' crowds were there, paying at the door, and drinking all night, making Jarrod money. he didn't tell us on the phone when he asked us to 'do him a favor' and play two sets that we were now not going to get paid AT ALL. we came all the way there, played for almost 3 hours...




toggletoggle post by cocksuckdickorgy at Nov 26,2004 3:35pm
CandyStriperDeathOrgy said:
I know a lot of you don't like JARROD's..... We've always been treated well there. We've had to sell tickets in the past. It was a little bit of a struggle... But, we did it..... If you work with him he'll work with you....



you just like they way jarrod's cock tastes




toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Nov 26,2004 3:45pm
he told us there was no cover charge at the door when we played then banned us for no returning the tickets we didnt sell back to the club?????



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 27,2004 3:49am
hmm...i say that i still don't care...because we're just going there to play and winning said battle is not of that much importance. we just want to go there, sound mint, and have a good time



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 27,2004 4:02am
seriously though...we really could use the support. we never disappoint



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 27,2004 6:11am
a bunch of your fellow musicians were ripped off by his clown, and you say you 'don't care'... then you say you could 'really use the support'.

um, sorry!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Nov 27,2004 11:21am
agreed... i'd never set foot in that club again !



toggletoggle post by CandyStriperDeathOrgy  at Nov 28,2004 2:53am
A couple of years ago we played a sold out show with OVER KILL at Jarrod's. OVER KILL was like $5000.00 and the advertising on WAAF was over $3000.00. We at least got $150.00. But, we made a bunch of money on merch.... $750.00



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Nov 28,2004 8:08am
th3rdknuckle said:
both bands' crowds were there, paying at the door, and drinking all night, making Jarrod money. he didn't tell us on the phone when he asked us to 'do him a favor' and play two sets that we were now not going to get paid AT ALL. we came all the way there, played for almost 3 hours...



Any particular reason you didn't kick his ass right then and there?



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 28,2004 7:36pm
BestialOnslaught said:
Any particular reason you didn't kick his ass right then and there?


yes: he wasn't there; he left before the end of our 2nd set. we were left to deal with the club staff for an explanation. all we got was "duh..."



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 29,2004 4:35am
im playing the worlds smallest violin for you



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 29,2004 7:06am
no, you're playing the world's shittiest craphole

and putting money in someone's pocket who has had a negative impact on the scene

'battle of the bands' at Jarrod's
did you win? huh?
great career move
good luck with your band...
maybe after jr high you guys will play a real show at a real club



toggletoggle post by sacreligionNLI at Nov 29,2004 12:53pm
didn't care about winning. didn't pick up tickets. didn't even talk to jarrod.

you guys amaze me with your childish nonsense. i really do feel like im in jr high with people treating the new kid like a piece of shit just because they hope that doing so will make everyone like them more.

grow a sac and use your views to do some good as opposed to sitting on a computer bitching in your lonesome existence



toggletoggle post by subjugate   at Nov 29,2004 1:57pm
dude if it were at anyother club i'd probly come support ya but jarrod has a reputation of screwing band and the the scen and fans and you trying to get support froma message board where 98.9% of the people had the club and the owner son your beating a dead horse.

call it childish whatwere thing is no one from here wants anything to do with jarrod ,his club and his obviously riDICKulous rules good luch with the show regaurdless but you should rethink playing there in the future or at the most promoting it where peopel hate that club




toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Nov 29,2004 2:00pm
i know...figured it might get a couple more people to come check us out though. like i said earlier we'll play anywhere just for the sake of playing. granted it was at a place everyone hates but it's my duty to find shows for the band and then promote them.

consider yourselves lucky though...cuz if you did go...you would've waited til like 1215 to see us play after 4 AWFUL bands...we would've made it worthwhile...but those other bands were just...awful



toggletoggle post by th3rdknuckle at Nov 29,2004 6:23pm
sacreligionNLI said:
i really do feel like im in jr high with people treating the new kid like a piece of shit just because they hope that doing so will make everyone like them more.

grow a sac and use your views to do some good as opposed to sitting on a computer bitching in your lonesome existence


no one's treating you like shit so anyone will like them more. it's simply because sometimes you have to put what's good for the scene before what immediately appears to be good for your band. but appaently you don't give a shit about what's good (or bad) for the scene.

your response to your brothers telling you stories of how they were ripped off by this club was 'i really don't care'... then you said you 'could really use the support'-- that was mighty stupid. who wants to support someone who could care less about other bands getting screwed? support an organizaton that screws your fellow bands (and you eventually); then ask your fellow bands for support. it's laughable!


and don't be telling me to 'get a sac and do some good'... i've worked in the N.E. metal scene for almost 20 years and done more gigs here than you have hairs on your head. you have a lot to learn.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Nov 30,2004 12:17am
the "i dont care" was more related to the fact that we were still going to play the show. even before our first time playing there almost a year ago i heard all this stuff but decided to see what would happen anyway. believe me the last thing i wanna do is throw another wrench in the gears around here but boycotting jarrod's place isn't going to stop it so i figure i'll make good use of their sound system for the time being

no offense was intended towards anyone...it just came off as everyone backing me into a corner when all i wanted to do was rock out



toggletoggle post by suckreligion   at Nov 30,2004 10:38am
i say fuck the "scene". its a buncha bullshit. i want to create my own scene with bands that we can relate to. usually when you go out on a limb for the others... they screw you over anyways.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Nov 30,2004 12:19pm
i still say the "scene" sucks because everyone keeps referring to it as the "scene"...with quotation marks...bahaha



toggletoggle post by the great litacore at Nov 30,2004 2:40pm
this presents a dilemma for me because yeah I want to see Sacreligion

but Jarrod's sucks such an INFINITIZED ABUNDANCE of frog balls, I so can't support that club. Even with the venue shortage.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 30,2004 2:54pm
shows a show, good luck guys



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 3:10pm
all the kids over at AAF board think your band sucks if you have played a basement show. Yet have no problem with playing jarrod's.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 1,2004 2:19am
haha i don't think they made that connection...

this is no longer of any importance now that the show has passed...let us move on to a new topic that is not so aggravating



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 1,2004 2:30am
hey litacore, in what area of NE do you currently reside?



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Dec 1,2004 2:42am
suckreligion said:
i say fuck the "scene". its a buncha bullshit. i want to create my own scene with bands that we can relate to. usually when you go out on a limb for the others... they screw you over anyways.


I agree to an extent... First of all, yes, I'd rather focus my support discriminately on bands I enjoy and that I relate to. And secondly, the problem with boycotting venues, labels, zines, whatever, based on reputation is that in the underground, sooner or later everyone gets some negative feedback... Are we just supposed to boycott everyone?



toggletoggle post by blue  at Dec 1,2004 9:53am
where were we.......ah yes, JARRODS BLOWS.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 9:58am
SacreligionNLI said:
hey litacore, in what area of NE do you currently reside?


Somerville, Boston slum. A member of your band (Emporor shirt) met my guitarist in Jillians a few months back.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Dec 3,2004 5:09pm
that's probably tony...i'll ask him if he remembers



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Dec 3,2004 5:38pm
Blue you're the man !



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