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Boozegood said
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I'd also love to know why every statement and symbol from the Founders is pulled out on cue except the actual weapons they used. Why not respect the whole history of the second amendment instead of cherry picking? The Founders meant we each get a musket in our house. That's an individual right no one can fuck with and that I believe in with every ounce of my being, the right to arm yourself in your home to have the power to fire a shot, not to fire hundreds in seconds in a way that only has one real-life usage, killing the innocent.
Please support ANY OF THIS with a single cited fact.
You don't believe the Founders had access to muskets and nothing much stronger, needing citation for that? I find that hard to believe, you seem to be quite educated about weapons. Is it your assertion they had Uzis? Not sure what point you're making there. They had muskets, they wrote laws with those muskets in mind. Not rocket science.
The only other thing I said in that quote was the individual right to have a gun in your home that the Supreme Court recently ruled was the intent of the Second Amendment, not just for militias to have guns. It was the right decision, as well as a decision all those in favor of guns agreed with - and you can google that.
Maybe you're referring to what I said about the usage of the gun, which true enough, also could make reloading faster for target shooting on a range - but I was talking about having one in the house, which is the right being described. If SWAT's after you, doesn't matter if you have a handgun or a semi-automatic they'll take you down, so the whole insurance policy against government intrusion doesn't really work as a justification for needing stronger weapons than the ones used in our early history; having one in the house just means killing more people before you die, not withstanding or thwarting the government intrusion.
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