ShadowSD said

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Wow, I'm a fascist now for thinking people have the freedom to hurt themselves but not to infringe on each others' freedoms.

I think when you read what I said, my argument was based on liberty entirely.

Those kids had a right to liberty, too. Not to total security. As Yeti correctly pointed out, attackers can just as well use a shotgun or a handgun or a knife. If they did, I and most people in the country right now wouldn't be pissed at the government about this. The difference with a semi-automatic is 0 or 1 or 2 deaths verses 27.

No there is no such thing as total security. That's why I think turning schools into airports post 9-11 as a response to this tragedy like I've heard some people (not here) say would be insanity, and what happens when you get overly defensive instead of taking care of dismantling the offense. I don't want metal detectors, or cops, or armed security guards at my daughter's school every day, I'm talking to the principal this week to voice my opinion of that very thing, no one let alone kids should live under a cloak of paranoia.

I also oppose national ID cards, support legalizing pot, and I now support the legalization of all drugs. But because I don't want my kid shot by legal military style weapons for civilians, I'm a fascist. Got it.

Someone still has yet to answer me why you don't feel your freedom is under assault from not being able to use bazookas or nukes. I'm still waiting on that one.

I'd also love to know why every statement and symbol from the Founders is pulled out on cue except the actual weapons they used. Why not respect the whole history of the second amendment instead of cherry picking? The Founders meant we each get a musket in our house. That's an individual right no one can fuck with and that I believe in with every ounce of my being, the right to arm yourself in your home to have the power to fire a shot, not to fire hundreds in seconds in a way that only has one real-life usage, killing the innocent.

I'm just saying we follow the Founders in both deed and not just word on this. Liberty of children to be free from mass shootings like they were in the days of the Founders > liberty of grown men to fire weaponry the Founders never conceived or considered.